Perseus/ALB rogue farming

Sorry I haven’t posted in a long, long time — the advent of multiplayer half-stam, along with a bunch of other stuff I’ve got going on in my life, means something has to give, and I chose to play PAD over write about PAD.

That being said, since I last posted I took over an account that became my alt and primary coop partner, but it didn’t have Awoken Liu Bei, and it had a very limited box. It did, however, have Perseus, and so over the last few months I’ve been putting together teams that could farm rogue dungeons quickly and reliably, using mostly farmables for the alt.

Why Perseus? His 5x multiplier isn’t great in today’s meta, but when combined with Liu Bei’s 8x and the rows that the team typically brings, it’s enough. Almost as importantly, his skill enhances hearts, so works as a mini-spike for bosses.

Since the benefits of farming rogues are legion — some of the highest rank xp/stam in the game, guaranteed monster points from predras, solid fodder in the form of pengdra and super king dragons, some of the better +/stam in the game, and many of the bosses can be useful for those without well-developed REM boxes — and not everyone has an Awoken Liu Bei, I thought I’d publish my plans so that players with Perseus can join in on the rogue farming fun.


Guide to Perseus/ALB rogue farming


PADListener is back!

If you’ve never used it, PADListener is a great Android app that automates syncing your monster box with Padherder, making it much easier for other people to see what monsters you have. With the advent of co-op and people offering to do carries, it’s even more important that you can quickly and easily share your monsters with someone.

Sadly, the 9.1 update broke PADListener. I won’t bore you with the technical details; long story short, someone from the community fixed it, but the author of PADListener doesn’t appear to be updating it any more, so the official version doesn’t have the fix and there’s no way for most users to get it.

Until now! I’ve built the app with the fix and am happy to report that it works great on a Nexus 5 and a Samsung S6, both running Android 5.1.1 (sorry, iOS users). I later upgraded both to Android 6.0.1 and have had no issues there either, and per comments it looks like this should work for Android 7 as well. Here are the steps:

  1. Download the apk from here.
  2. On your phone, go to Settings->Security, and check the box that says “Unknown sources: allow installation of apps from sources other than the Play Store”.
  3. You’ll probably get a warning saying that this makes your phone less secure. That’s true, it does, and if you don’t trust me (and why should you, I’m some random dude on the Internet who compiled some code that some other random dude wrote), you shouldn’t turn this on. That being said, you can’t install the app without it, and you can turn it back off once you install the app.
  4. Uninstall your current version of PADListener, if you have one. You may want to go through your settings and take notes of how it’s currently configured, since this will be lost when you install the new version.
  5. If you already know how to sideload APKs, sideload the APK you downloaded in step 1. If that sounds like a bunch of technical gobbledygook to you, follow the instructions here to download and install ADB, then run “adb install APK_NAME” where APK_NAME is the apk you downloaded in step 1.
  6. On your phone, open PADListener and re-input your account information and settings.
  7. Tap on Manual under Start Listener and tap the Export CA button. You can name this certificate whatever you want.
  8. That’s it! You can now use PadListener to sync your box; the all-in-one command should work now too.

If you don’t trust me (and again, generally speaking I recommend that you don’t trust random dudes on the Internet*) and want to build the code yourself, here are the steps I used on Mac:

* Although, to be fair, you’re also trusting the original author of PADListener, who is a random dude on the Internet.

  1. Install gradle:
    1. Download and unzip the binaries.
    2. Set GRADLE_HOME to whatever directory you unzipped them to.
    3. Add GRADLE_HOME/bin to your path.
  2. Install and configure Android Studio:
    1. Download Android Studio.
    2. Set ANDROID_HOME to ~/Library/Android/sdk/.
    3. Open Android Studio. On the bottom of the splash screen, click Configure. Install SDK 23. Click on the “open standalone SDK Manager” link and install Build Tools 23.0.3.
  3. Download the source for PADListener using git.
  4. Apply ahnada’s patch, using “git fetch origin pull/110/head:fix_error_101; git checkout fix_error_101”
  5. Build the app, using “gradle build”.
  6. Now you have your own copy of the app! Follow the instructions above to install it.

Combo breaker!

It was a good run, but the streak is over. I was kind of hoping to make it to 3 straight months of posting something every day, but I’ve been too busy this weekend and didn’t really have anything to say, so I just skipped it.

I’m going to be scaling back on posting in the near future — it’s been eating up a lot of my time and I’m about to be a lot more busy than I have been the past couple of months. In addition, I fully agree with setsu’s comments here when he says that incomplete information is worse than no information at all, and I’d rather write nothing than put up something that’s poorly researched or misses important points.

Aamir farming data


It took 3 full days and a couple of runs on a third, but I finally finished skilling up my Aamir. Was it worth it? I dunno. On the one hand, I’ve had a handful of dungeon plans that would have been much easier if I could have gotten two uses out of his unbind skill or had it up on an earlier floor; on the other hand, I’ve generally managed to work around that limitation.

I guess the reason I went ahead and did it anyway was because I don’t see any other dark unbinders that I’m likely to acquire any time soon, and it’s nice to have that as an option in my box even if I probably won’t use it a ton. Also, if I really need an unbinder, he’s actually a pretty decent sub once we get his uevo and skill inheritance; a time extend and a row means he’s actually bringing something to the table other than the bind clear, which is quite nice for a farmable sub.

Also, I figured while 10x was going on, a nice side benefit is that I could collect a bit of data on +egg and drop rates in his dungeon:

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Weekly Plan 14

For an explanation of why I craft weekly plans, see Weekly Plan 1.
For a history of previous weeks, see here.

Went rogue this week! As planned, I farmed up some dublits and cleaned out my box of some evos on Friday, then did all the Challenge Dungeons over the weekend. On Monday I discovered that the alt technicals did not have 5x +eggs and my skillup v +egg analysis indicated that I should actually be running Aamir, so I’ve been doing that almost all week. Now that I’ve finished him, I’ll run a few of the Challenge Dungeons again — I sadly did not see the announcement of the new awokens (Persephone, Ares, DQXQ) in time to save their evo mats, so will need to do the dungeon again.

On to this week’s plan…
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Optimal board analysis: Heroes w/enhanced orbs

Setsu’s blog has a great reference page on optimal boards for a wide variety of leaders, which is incredibly useful for those situations where you must squeeze every last drop of damage out of your team. However, in situations like multiplayer and ranking dungeon, you don’t have unlimited time, so you might be better off just making a less optimal but easier to remember board. How much damage are you giving up, though? Let’s find out.

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Farming Monster Points

The introduction of the Monster Point shop brought with it an unprecedented rise in power level; with the possible exception of Odin Dragon, the MP dragons are all outstanding leads, offering either exceptional power (Ra Dragon), extreme ease of use (Shiva Dragon), or an unparalleled combination of both (Yomi and Neptune).

Unfortunately, as with many things, you pay for what you get — the 300k MP price is quite steep, representing about 300 stones’ worth of unwanted REM rolls. With skill inheritance right around the corner, the average non-IAP player is likely to be priced out of ever owning one of these beasts. Even very dedicated/lucky non-IAP players would probably take a year or more to be able to afford a single one.

The Gentleman Flower MP series makes matters even worse. It appears that they may be even more powerful than the originals, but to hit their full potential, you need THREE, which I thought would be completely out of reach for non-IAP players — by the time you have enough MP to afford even a second one, the metagame is sure to have moved on.

Then a friend pointed me to this:

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Skill ups or plus eggs?

The current 10x event is massively high-value for +eggs, as the descended challenge runs the entire length of the event and has both Goemon (one of the best dungeons for farming +eggs while stoning repeatedly) and Kanetsugu (one of the best dungeons for farming +eggs period).

However, with 30 descends all available for a full week of 2.5x skillups, it’s also an excellent opportunity to farm skillups for non-IAP players. Typically descends are available for one day at a time, during which you can probably get 10-12 runs in (if everything lines up perfectly, maybe as many as 18). That’s something like 3-4 skillups; since descends come around every 3-5 weeks and some descended bosses require 10 or more skillups, max skilling a descend boss might normally take 2-4 months. During this event, you could probably do it in as little as 4 days.

The bigger question is, should you?

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Orb management

Per reader request, I’ve been keeping an eye out for interesting boards that might be useful for demonstrating how I execute my dungeon plans. One thing that was always a bit confusing to me when I first started playing harder leads was the notion of “orb management”, where you try to save a few orbs that you don’t need to sweep the current floor in order to make activating your leader on the next floor easier. Today, I’ll offer a very simple example of what this means in practice.

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